Ecover come clean on their laundry bleach
November 22nd, 2006

Now, Ecover is a brand close to my heart. No one is making them use recycled cardboard in their packaging, or avoid the use of persistent chemicals like chlorine, they just do. It’s what they’re all about. But science, my friends, has made me a stony man, and all bad science is fair game. There’s no favouritism to be found here.
Dear Ecover,
I recently purchased a box of your laundry bleach in my local supermarket. According to the ingredients, Ecover chlorine-free natural oxygen bleach contains:
“100 % percarbonate, which is composed of salt, limestone and oxygenated water.”
I was surprised to find, however, there was no water in the box (oxygenated or not), as it is entirely a dry powder. Then it dawned upon me – by “oxygenated water” (H20 & 02), do you actually mean “hydrogen peroxide” (H202)? If so, why is it not labelled as such on the pack?
Also, if the ingredients of Ecover chlorine-free natural oxygen bleach are indeed regular sodium percarbonate, how does my £1.37, 400g box of “Ecover chlorine free natural oxygen bleach” differ from the 1kg bag of soda crystals I picked up two aisles earlier for 51p?
Finally, I would be indebted to you if you could settle a long-standing argument between me and my girlfriend. Does Ecover rhyme with “Dover” or “lover”?
Your answers are much appreciated,
Frank Swain
Dear Frank
Thank you for your e.mail. We have now received a response from our factory as follows:
“Sodium percarbonate, or sodium carbonate hydrogen peroxide hydrate, is produced by the reaction of sodium carbonate with hydrogen peroxide, which can be done via dry, spray and wet processes. In the dry process aqueous hydrogen peroxide is sprayed on solid carbonate, the reaction of which yield percarbonate. The same can and is quite commonly done in a fluid bed (allowing the addition of coating materials such as silicate for protecting the granula against heavy metal migration along with free moisture). Solutions of sodium carbonate and peroxide are sprayed into a drying chamber where water is evaporated. In the wet process percarbonate is obtained by crystallisation possibly in combination with salting out.
So the 51p carbonate or soda is the starting point from which to manufacture percarbonate, but is by no means the same. Furthermore hydrogen peroxide need not be mentioned on the label, since it’s an integral part of the percarbonate. Finally “dry” looking powders can contain up to 50% of water. In the case of percarbonate 100 gram of dry looking percarbonate granules actually contain 32.5 % hydrogenperoxide.”
Finally, to settle your argument – the first part of Ecover – Eco is pronounced nearer to Dover although the second part of the word should sound like in the French “vert” – although I will say we have heard many different ways as to how this should be pronounced!!!
We hope this answers your query. If we can be of any further assistance please do not hesitate to contact us again.
Kind regards
Jan Lambell
Ecover UK Limited
Aha, so Ecover think they can bamboozle me with science, eh? They underestimate my grasp of first-year chemistry, access to Wikipedia and the how obvious their diversionary tactics are. They’re right about the water, though.
Dear Jan,
Thank you very much for your reply. It was very informative, and I enjoyed learning about the production process behind sodium percarbonate.
However, I feel that you have misunderstood my question. I wanted to know why it is you chose to refer to the hydrogen peroxide in your product as “oxygenated water”, which is a different substance with entirely different properties.
Also, sodium percarbonate is an addition compound, i.e. the two chemicals combine but do not form a new chemical with new properties. Therefore, I am confused as to why, instead of referring to the constituents of percarbonate as calcium carbonate and hydrogen peroxide, you refer to the products used further up the process chain.
Surely by this logic, you could refer to Ecover chlorine free natural oxygen bleach as being comprised of hydrogen, oxygen, sodium, calcium and carbon.
Also, I should note that the “soda crystals” I referred to are the common name for percarbonate. Sodium carbonate without added hydrogen peroxide is known as soda ash, and is an entirely different product.
Thanks for clearing up the pronunciation of Ecover, I look forward to hearing from you again,
Regards,
Frank
Aha! Science bamboozle right back at you, Ecover! This is a classic case of the old “don’t mention the chemicals” ploy. And steak is made of grass. I’m sympathetic to a brand’s sensitivity to customers’ aversion to anything remotely “chemical sounding” – wait, no, I’m not. I expect them to take some responsibility to teach people that chemicals are chemicals, whatever you call them.
Dear Frank
Herewith further response from our factory:
“Your are correct – the term oxygenated water is confusing and so is the use of calcium carbonate on the label. We regularly review our packaging and your comments will be taken into consideration when we next re-print our packaging.
With regard to soda – soda and soda crystals are both sodium carbonate (either anhydrous or hydrated) and do not contain any bleach. Soda ash is the same as anhydrous soda. The soda ash from around Frank’s corner does not contain any bleach (thus the price difference). An easy way to check the difference is to add Ecover bleach in a glass of wine (tea will probably also do) and compare to what happens with soda crystals (ie nothing).”
Kind regards
Jan Lambell
Ecover UK Limited
Dear Jan,
Thank you for your email. I stand corrected on the soda crystals – they are indeed sodium carbonate and not sodium percarbonate. Thank you also for proposing a great home experiment!
I’m glad that you will take my comments into consideration – I would hate to think that Ecover were deliberately avoiding the use of chemical names on their ingredients in order to give their product a “natural” gloss.
Thank you for your fine scientific explanations,
Frank
Well obviously I was a little embarrassed after that, and I expected nothing to come from the stock “we’ll be reviewing your comments” platitudes. Besides, I didn’t have much more of a point to make: Jan has agreed the packaging is misleading, and I’ve been corrected. I did get an ace home experiment out of it – I wasn’t being facetious, I really do dig home experiments (yes, I actually performed the experiment prior to my last letter). So it was a great surprise to receive this email some time later.
Hi Frank,
Thank you for your email concerning our laundry bleach. We have decided to change our ingredients declaration as our lab agreed it was misleading. I have attached the new label for your information.
Thanks again for your feedback.
Kind regards
Alastair
Righteous!
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8 Comments
1. cl64dia | November 23rd, 2006 at 7:24 pm
good work!
I’m impressed – and beginning to feel that paying double the price for ecover products might actually be worth it (as well as being a sop to my inevitable western 21st century guilt).
love the blog, by the way.
2. Frank | November 24th, 2006 at 9:14 am
Ecover are probably the best cats I’ve dealt with, in that they actually put me onto a competent scientist. They’re not bad people, but some schmuck in marketing got cold feet when it came to the labelling. Good on Ecover for setting it straight!
3. melissa | December 5th, 2006 at 4:08 pm
this site is excellent!!!!!!!! a excellent help!!
4. Carwen | October 10th, 2007 at 4:32 am
Amazing – I think you have given me wonderful clues. I googled “sodium percarbonate” and “sodium carbonate”, which are listed as ingredients in a product “Affresh” that was developed and is being sold by Whirlpool as the solution to the detergent/grease residue buildup that occurs in their front-loading Duet washing machine (low-water system), even if you keep the door open between washes and perform their mandated monthly cleaning cycle on a special setting using chlorinated bleach only. This residue results in laundry that stinks unbearably after washing. They say they just discovered this problem and boy, after three months’ proper use of the washer, so have I. Whirlpool sells this at 3 tablets for $6.99 plus shipping!!! and you must do a cleaning cycle using one tablet in an empty washer once a month. I am guessing this is no more than compressed “Oxyclean,” a product you may have your end. Any additional info gratefully received.
5. katrianna | June 13th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
did you try to experiment and make your own sodium percarbonate combining the hydrogen peroxide and sodium carbonate?
I am wondering if this is possible?
6. Monique MacIntosh | October 5th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
Hi, Can you please do an update/summary for those of us less chemically-knowledgable? Essentialy, are you saying that Ecover (a company I love) uses chemicals in its powdered bleach, but they are not or less harmful to living things and the environment than chlorine bleach? Does this apply to their liquid bleach?
Thank you
7. Monique MacIntosh | October 5th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
Hi Frank,
I am having a little trouble finding a reliable information source to help me figure out how to neutralize chlorine bleach residue in laundry for someone who wants to use green cleaners, one of them being vinegar which should not be combined with chlorine. Can you help me?
I write for EcoHomeResource.com
Thank you
8. Frank the SciencePunk | October 5th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
@ 6. Monique MacIntosh
Firstly, EVERYTHING is made of chemicals. Vinegar is a chemical. So is chlorine bleach. Before we go any further, it’s absolutely critical that you understand there is no difference between ‘natural’ and ‘man-made’ chemicals, it is a completely false idea to think that one group is better, safer, healthier or less harsh than the other.
Now that we’ve got that out the way: Ecover laundry bleach contains hydrogen peroxide, which they called “oxygenated water” on the packaging. Hydrogen peroxide is seen as more environmentally-friendly because it is easily broken down into oxygen and water by a very common biochemical reaction. As such, it does not persist in the environment for as long as chlorine does. However, one should not think of hydrogen peroxide as being ‘friendly’: it was used in early jet planes as a fuel source; unlucky pilots whose tanks ruptured (or were punched through by enemy bullets) would meet a very unpleasant end by chemical burns when the pure hydrogen peroxide seeped into the cabin.
Like chlorine, hydrogen peroxide is harmful when misused or in high concentrations, and just like chlorine, it is safe and very useful when used properly in low concentrations.
Now, for the second part of your question: I assume you’re planning to neutralise the chlorine in clothes because you’re worried it may react with the vinegar to produce noxious fumes. Vinegar = acetic acid. When you mix chlorine with an acid, there is a potential to cause said noxious vapours. However, the levels of chlorine residue in your washed clothes is extremely unlikely to offer any kind of reaction. After all, the tap water you rinsed your clothes in contains chlorine, and it’s not like mixing tap water and vinegar poses any threat, right? If you’re worried, experiment with a small area of cloth in a well ventilated space…
One last point: mixing hydrogen peroxide and acid is also dangerous – particularly acetic acid, aka vinegar. Oh No! Again, the concentrations you’re working with aren’t likely to cause problems, although you might want to proceed with caution…
At the end of the day, the problem is that cleaning is a job that needs a strong oxidiser to be effective, and these oxidisers by their very definition aren’t going to be ‘friendly’. You can wash your clothes in vinegar if you want, but I don’t expect them to be much cleaner by the end of it…
Life is full of chemicals, wonderful, useful, dynamic, exciting chemicals. The most dangerous and environmentally-damaging ones are unlikely to ever be used by you, so worry less about your washing cycle and more about how the gold in your computer was taken out of the earth….
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