Cinnamon and honey can cure anything!

April 2nd, 2008

CC_justAbigGeekHere’s a funny email that’s currently hitting the fluffier forums at the moment: ‘cinamon and honey the miracle cure [sic]‘. I’m not sure where the claims originated, but can be found here, here, here and here. In fact, this website has a lovely slideshow as well. So what can honey and cinnamon cure? I’m glad you asked.

It is found that a mixture of honey and cinnamon cures most diseases. Honey is produced in most of the countries of the world. Scientists of today also accept honey as a “Ram Ban” (very effective) medicine for all kinds of diseases.

I’ve never heard of a Ram Ban medicine, that must be some kind of high-level medical terminology that I don’t recognise. And a medicine that cures all kinds of diseases. Not just one kind. All kinds! Amazing.

But wait, there’s more. Here’s a list of the specific illnesses that honey and cinnamon can treat: heart disease, toothache, bladder infection, cholesterol, the common cold, upset stomach, gas, a weak immune system, indigestion, influenza, longevity (”even a 100 year old, starts performing the chores of a 20-year-old”), skin infections, weight loss, pimples, cancer, fatigue, bad breath, and hearing loss.

Incredibly, honey and cinnamon can cure cancer in one month, but takes two weeks to cure a pimple. I guess even miracle cures have their limits.

*EDIT* I spotted the source of these claims on one of the sites above.  It is no other than that most venerable of publications, Weekly World News!  It’s not clear that the persons adapting the claims for their website realised that ‘The World’s Only Reliable Newspaper’ isn’t that reliable.  You’d think stories such as ‘Fountain of Vermouth Discovered’ and ‘Alien Bible Translated’ would be a bit of a giveaway.

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149 Comments

  • 1. Dr* T  |  April 2nd, 2008 at 9:03 pm

    But honey (or more specifically) Life Mel Honey can help patients with cancer treatment. Or so, Mr Al Fayed, renowned posh corner shop owner, would have you believe.

    PR blurb dressed as science – I’ve written about it here

    T

  • 2. Robert  |  April 2nd, 2008 at 11:52 pm

    Actually, the common cold thing may not be total bunk. link

  • 3. Frank the SciencePunk  |  April 4th, 2008 at 9:13 am

    @ 2. Robert
    Thanks for the link, it’s interesting. However, all it shows is that honey reduces one of the symptoms of colds. That’s a far cry from a ‘cure’.

  • 4. Joseph Hewitt  |  April 5th, 2008 at 1:56 am

    Add some wintergreen, liquorice, and sasparilla to that cinnamon and honey and you’re well on your way to brewing a delicious root beer. That’s a wonder cure I could get behind.

  • 5. kelly  |  April 9th, 2008 at 2:37 pm

    Editor’s note: this comment contains a logical fallacy, see: Regression Fallacy

    Trust me honey and cinnamon mixture DOES cure a cold. I just drank it for 3 days and my cold is gone. It clears the worst case of head cold symptoms you can imagine. Pain, Preasure, plugged up nose, sneezing, cough, you name it I had it and IT REALLY WORKS.

  • 6. Frank the SciencePunk  |  April 9th, 2008 at 8:55 pm

    Wow, 3 days, around the same amount of time it takes to get over a cold normally…

    Take honey and cinnamon if it makes you feel better – but if it had a medicinal effect, you’d need a prescription for it. Think about that.

  • 7. Gilbert  |  April 12th, 2008 at 5:13 pm

    Frank you should take a bit of this honey and cinnamon for you seem a little plugged from the brain. Might help you alot seem to be in a bad case of a remedy. Its like its not the speed that kills someone, just the sudden stop. Wake up and smell the bacon ( low fat bacon that is…) Pharmaceuticals and government will kill us and i plan to last until 120 years old and more. I will visit your government owned gravesite!!

  • 8. Frank the SciencePunk  |  April 12th, 2008 at 5:41 pm

    …You are a sad, strange little man.

  • 9. Tony  |  April 15th, 2008 at 9:22 am

    I have seen the guff on the ‘Honey and Cinnamon Cure All’ and I must admit I was initially somewhat taken in. But then I did some investigating, via the internet, about this miracle cure. What did I find? Well it seems that there are a multitude of references to this product – but they all seem to quote, or re-iterate, the same article. The same recipes, the same order in the listing of the recipes, eveen the same preamble about where honey can be obtained. What I would like to know is who wrote the original article, what evidence is there to substaniate their claims and what qualifies them to make such claims? Has anyone got any answers for me?

  • 10. honeybee  |  May 1st, 2008 at 5:08 am

    There is no such thing as a miracle cure unless you really believe in it

  • 11. hot chick  |  May 12th, 2008 at 6:05 pm

    Editor’s note: this comment contains a logical fallacy, see: Cum hoc ergo propter hoc

    Well, I can say that the weight loss claim works. It is a cleansing affect. So until you get used to it, stay close to a rest room. Although after two weeks and 15lbs, the weight loss slowed down. I havn’t changed my eating habits although I should. ut it is great for that quick weight loss. I don’t know about the long term affects as I have only done it for 2 weeks. Will let you know later.

  • 12. Adrian  |  May 18th, 2008 at 1:17 pm

    A very good friend of mine has a very good friend who had liver cancer. Was told by doctor’s nothing would help, get papers, life etc. in order. He read something about honey and cinnamon and decided what the heck, might as well try it. He no longer has liver cancer and is living a very productive life. Was it the honey and cinnamon? Or just a plain old fashioned miracle? Who cares? When you are given a death sentence by a medical doctor, why not try anything? What’s it gonna hurt? I personally have a frien who is a surgeon. He had cancer and had absolutely no luck with medical treatment. He turned to alternative natural treatment and beat his cancer. He tried so many things he does not know exactly which thing helped him. But, who cares… he’s alive which according to medical doctors he should’ve died a few years ago.

    Bottom line, if you read something that seems logical, or inspires you then go for it. What is it gonna hurt? Don’t ask a medical doctor what they think about it – they will ALWAYS

  • 13. Adrian  |  May 18th, 2008 at 1:18 pm

    A very good friend of mine has a very good friend who had liver cancer. Was told by doctor’s nothing would help, get papers, life etc. in order. He read something about honey and cinnamon and decided what the heck, might as well try it. He no longer has liver cancer and is living a very productive life. Was it the honey and cinnamon? Or just a plain old fashioned miracle? Who cares? When you are given a death sentence by a medical doctor, why not try anything? What’s it gonna hurt? I personally have a frien who is a surgeon. He had cancer and had absolutely no luck with medical treatment. He turned to alternative natural treatment and beat his cancer. He tried so many things he does not know exactly which thing helped him. But, who cares… he’s alive which according to medical doctors he should’ve died a few years ago.

    Bottom line, if you read something that seems logical, or inspires you then go for it. What is it gonna hurt? Don’t ask a medical doctor what they think about it – they will ALWAYS say that it won’t work.

  • 14. Mari  |  May 19th, 2008 at 12:13 pm

    Editor’s note: this comment contains a logical fallacy: see Proof by example

    I tried the gas remedy today. I have terrible gas and can clear a room in seconds flat. It seems to be getting worse. Last night I took the cinammon/honey cure (equal parts) and took about 1/2 teas of the mixture after each time I ate and I was finally ok. Will update y’all to let you know if it continues to work.

  • 15. Jadxia  |  May 31st, 2008 at 4:48 am

    Cinnamon is well known as a digestive aide and for odorous flatulence. Actually, I used to make #00 capsules, one each of cinnamon (or cassia bark), basil, and echinacea. Take that at the onset of smelly gas with a tall glass of lukewarm water (beware of herbal interactions with medications or conditions, etc). It worked wonders for me, although I do tend to belch with cinnamon flavor immediately afterward.

    Cure cancer? Probably not. It’s funny how these are always ‘friend of a good friend of mine’ stories. Behold the urban legend.

  • 16. Chris  |  June 2nd, 2008 at 6:38 pm

    Editor’s note: this comment contains a logical fallacy: see Proof by example

    I have been doing the cinnamon and honey drink for about a month now, I have lost about 5 lbs but have been eating so bad that i was sure i gained weight. I would like to know is how much of each do you use and do you just eat it or make a tea? 15 lbs in 2 weeks is great! Thank you.

  • 17. Doreen  |  June 17th, 2008 at 10:10 pm

    Editor’s note: this comment contains multiple logical fallacies, see: Appeal to authority, Anecdotal Evidence, and Thought-terminating cliché

    Frank, I’m 71, raised 3 kids and 50 years experience tells me it takes 7-10 days to cure a cold. If I had known I could get a decent night’s sleep in 3 days my kids would have lived on honey & cinnamon. I always did use honey on cuts/scrapes under a bandaid and it always healed fast. And hot water, honey and peppermint was the usual cure for sore throat. I had some of it right – but no one told me about the cinnamon. So, my friend, “don’t knock it till you try it” (as long as it won’t hurt you).

  • 18. Frank the SciencePunk  |  June 17th, 2008 at 11:00 pm

    50 years experience won’t change the laws of science I’m afraid. Without scientific evidence, there is nothing to separate these claims from fantasy.
    Honey is a known anti-microbial, but claiming it can cure cancer is ridiculous. Could I please state again for everyone that these claims originated in the Weekly World News…

  • 19. Tory  |  June 27th, 2008 at 3:53 am

    I know of a PhD student who is working on the use of honey in treating multiple drug resistant Staphylococcus aureus skin infections in burns victims. Unfortunately I don’t know the results of her work but I had a look at the literature and there are a number of papers which have identified different antimicrobial chemicals found in honey from different plant species and different bee species but most of these are in vitro studies. I agree with Frank that there is no basis for calling honey & cinnamon a miracle cure.

  • 20. Kabeer  |  June 29th, 2008 at 9:44 am

    Heyya..i would just like to ask does cinammon and honey cure fatty liver/liver problem,cholestrol??? please urgent reply!

    Also TO reduce weight?? is that a tea or something please reply back and tell me how to make it! lol please reply

  • 21. TheMan  |  July 1st, 2008 at 1:00 am

    Ram = Hindu God
    Ban = Arrow

    The phrase “Ram Ban” is used to describe a sure thing, a silver bullet.

    If I am not mistaken, the cinnamon/honey combo benefits have their roots in Ayurveda.

  • 22. Christine  |  July 2nd, 2008 at 7:43 pm

    This is for Kabeer, I feel that the honey and cinnamon certainly won’t hurt and may help, I know that you can drink a glass of water with 1/2 of a fresh lemon squeezed into it is very helpful, don’t use anything but fresh lemon, I believe lime would also work, you can sweeten it up like a lemon or lime aid by useing stevia a natural plant sweetner which nurishes the pancrease. My neice is getting me a fatty liver cleanse recipe that a friend of hers lin the medical field gave her and when I get it I will pass it onto you, in the mean time, get on the lemon and water, just take it on an empty stomach 1/2 hour before you eat. The cinnamon and honey recipe that I use is

    Cinnamon and honey
    1/2 tsp cinnamon (Get it from health food store but tastes way better and is better for you)
    2 tsp honey, (raw, not pasturized.)

    put in a cup and mix tog. to form a paste, add 1 cup boiling water and cover for 1/2 hour.
    Stir and strain if you want, can get very slimmy. You can start out drinking 1/2 of that on an empty stomach in the morning and the other half at bedtime or you can drink the whole cup at once twice a day, I do the whole cup twice a day as I said above. Good luck

  • 23. Frank the SciencePunk  |  July 2nd, 2008 at 11:02 pm

    Stop it, please, for the love of god please just stop.

    This level of stupid bullshit hurts my brain.

    IF HONEY OR CINNAMON HAD A MEDICINAL EFFECT YOU SURE AS HELL WOULDN’T BE ALLOWED TO BUY IT WITHOUT A PRESCRIPTION. it would be controlled under the 1968 Medicines Act.

    Think about it. Just. Think.

  • 24. Centurion  |  July 12th, 2008 at 2:50 pm

    I was wounded in Vietnam by an infected punji stake in my right calf. The wound became so infected that it rotted the muscle tissue away until I had a golf ball sized hole that went all the way to the bone. NO antibiotics worked and it began developing gangrene. Finally an old Navy doc who had been in the Pacific in WWII ordered the wound to be packed with honey and granulated sugar. The infection was arrested and the muscle regranulated until the leg could be skin grafted. The doc, who was a full Navy captain and was the commanding officer of Naval Support Activity–Da Nang (”China Beach”) said it was a trick he learned in the tropical islands during the war. The was far better than the two young docs who wanted to amputate! Honey works!

  • 25. carolyn rogers  |  July 17th, 2008 at 3:41 pm

    First, can you use regular honey and regular cinnamon, and how much do you use and how do you fix it? Please reply!

  • 26. NightHiker  |  November 21st, 2008 at 12:55 pm

    “IF HONEY OR CINNAMON HAD A MEDICINAL EFFECT YOU SURE AS HELL WOULDN’T BE ALLOWED TO BUY IT WITHOUT A PRESCRIPTION.”

    Frank,

    I appreciate the work you do on a daily basis and the claims about honey and cinnamon (with the exception maybe of the anti-histaminic effects on the common cold, which is just sympton relief and not cure) are pretty likely hot air, but that argument of yours is as much falacious as the ones you criticize here.

    The fact that something is available to be bought without a prescription does not mean it does not have medical properties – it usually just mean that if they have it we don’t know about them OR we know about them but also know of no associated significant side effects. After all, there is a whole bunch of remedies you can buy over the counter without prescriptions that (alledgedly, at least) do have an effect on a series of conditions. Not to mention the case of the so called “herbal medicines” readily available on many stores: many might pretty well have yet undiscovered clinical effects – although I wouldn’t recommend taking them because of the uncertainty in the dosage and varied degrees of purity in the samples even for the ones whose clinical effects we do know something about.

    Keep up the good work, but don’t let emotions take the best of your usually refreshing reasoning.

    Cheers,
    NH

  • 27. Frank the SciencePunk  |  November 21st, 2008 at 1:57 pm

    Yes, several of you have already brought that up. I’ve corrected it now.

    Incidentally, herbal remedies aren’t allowed to be sold as medicines, they’re granted a special licence by the MHRA which allows them to refer to what they’ve ‘traditionally’ been used for, without having to provide any evidence of efficacy, but that’s a whole different can of worms.

  • 28. Leroy  |  November 21st, 2008 at 2:09 pm

    I had a tumour the size of a golf ball in my pancreas. I named it Lothario. My insulin was screwed up and I’d go all hypoglycaemic, but Lothario told me the best cure for it was to smear myself in egg yolk and go roll in some cinnamon. It stung my eyes a lot, but I smelled like a donut, so that was alright. Sometimes he’d make me drink urine and tell me to kill hamsters. I didn’t like him much.

    I eat honey.

  • 29. NightHiker  |  November 21st, 2008 at 2:19 pm

    That’s true for most other countries as well (as here in Brazil) and very, very unfortunate. But indeed it is a different can of worms.

    At least there are people, like you, who dedicate some of their time to educate others about such issues. It’s something I can appreciate, since I’ve been trying to do that in portuguese, and was very much overwhelmed by the opposition I faced for trying to teach some plain old reasoning.

    People usually either think you’re arrogant for trying to teach them something, or resent the fact you might know something they don’t. I guess it’s easier to criticize those who spend time trying to learn new things than to make the effort oneself.

    Cheers,
    NH

  • 30. Wanda  |  November 26th, 2008 at 4:44 am

    If the Pharmaceutical companies cannot patent something, they do not spend the money on the research. That is a known fact. To be a drug, there is a lot of research, time, and money involved. They cannot patent honey. Therefore, it would not behoove them to promote its use. It is sold at nearly every grocery store. I would not discount its uses just because it wasn’t promoted or endorsed by the drug administration.

  • 31. reef  |  November 26th, 2008 at 12:42 pm

    True, but by your logic if honey did indeed contain a miracle cure¹, one could extract that portion from the tasty bit², combine the respective bit from cinnamon in the required concentrations, patent, test, prove and then sell to the masses.

    ¹ see spoonfeds law, that any statement found 3 or more forums must be fact
    ² see sods law, that anything that tastes good is bad for you

  • 32. Wanda  |  November 28th, 2008 at 4:04 am

    Extracted components tend to have side effects. You can look that one up for yourself.

  • 33. reef  |  November 28th, 2008 at 11:55 am

    …hmmm, those pesky side effects, ruining otherwise brilliant medication? I’m getting confused, there’s just so much mis-information out there!
    Here’s an impartial review from the Natural Standard. The words insufficient evidence to recommend… seem to crop up a lot.

  • 34. JACKIE G.  |  November 30th, 2008 at 11:56 pm

    MY GRANDMOTHER AND MY MOTHER WERE GREAT CHEFS. THEY USED CINNAMON AND HONEY RECIPES FOR AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER. WETHER IT WAS MADE WITH PANCAKES, WAFFLES, FRENCH TOAST, BREAD, COOKIES, EGG NOG, PASTRY, BAKED HAM AND SO MUCH MORE….ALL OF US YOUNGSTERS WERE RAISED ON THIS TASTY PRODUCT, HOWEVER, I DIDN’T CURE A COLD, IT DIDN’T HELP WITH ARTERITIST, IT NO EFFECT ON TUMERS, AS FAR AS WOUNDS ARE CONCERNED, THIS MIXTURE IS A GOOD CAUSE FOR INFECTION, AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER, IT WAS JUST A GREAT TASTING REMEDY. IN HOT TEA ON A COLD DAY WAS WELCOMED, AND I STILL LOVE IT….JG

  • 35. reef  |  December 1st, 2008 at 3:18 pm

    For those interested, an impartial review of the medical effects of honey can be seen here.
    Unfortunately I can’t find anything other than hearsay and opinion on the effectiveness of honey + cinnamon.
    Personally I wish people would stop pinning their hopes on these, it won’t hurt to try, quick fixes that you find all over the internet. FFS, take some responsibility for your own wellbeing; eat healthily and exercise and most of these problems will disappear…

  • 36. steve  |  December 2nd, 2008 at 2:31 pm

    I agree with most here, if a drug coulbe made of it then the drug companies would have done it and patented it, but they do patent over the counter medication for colds and flu containing both of these ingredients.
    The fact is, almost all medications available have their origins in plants, and their use in treating ilnesses comes from the knowledge of herbalists, and these days amazonian witch doctors.

    Who’d have believed eating a bit of tree bark would cure headaches?

  • 37. Pete  |  December 5th, 2008 at 9:28 am

    I\\\’ve just been reading some of your comments about the medicinal properties of honey and am amazed at the ignorance of most of the cmments. first of all, Cappilano in Australia ran extensive scietific reserch on \\"medi honey\\" and trials in some London hospitals CURED golden staff and GANGREEN and based on thse trials, Medi Honey is registered with the foods and drugs administration here in Austrailia to be used as a medicen and sold in chemist shops WITHOUT A PRESCRIPTION.
    hope this helps someone.
    Peter

  • 38. dawnseattle  |  December 27th, 2008 at 4:48 pm

    My husband had cancer and might have died if he had lived. He is cancer free, he sweetens his tea with honey always has.

    I had terrible back pain, honey and cinnamon did not help, I am recuperating from surgery. All surgeries are not bad unless you are frightened.

    Hot things make you feel better when you have a cold, and feeling better helps the body heal, so yes indirectly it will cure a cold.

  • 39. Jennifer  |  December 29th, 2008 at 2:23 am

    We’re making this “Honey & Cinnamon: Miracle Cure” as our investigatory project in school. It’s going to tell us if this claim is true or not and if honey and cinnamon really cures the said ailments. I’ll try to post it here if it really works… I hope it does though or we won’t have a grade. :) Stop fighting and just test it on other people if it works…

  • 40. Frank the SciencePunk  |  December 29th, 2008 at 3:06 pm

    Sounds like an interesting project, let us know how it goes.
    Not sure how you’ll test it against cancer though…

  • 41. Gary  |  December 31st, 2008 at 10:01 am

    Editor’s note: this comment contains multiple logical fallacies: see Anecdotal Evidence and Post hoc ergo propter hoc

    I am a veteran of the Vietnam conflict. I have agent orange infiltration, diabetes 2, just about everything that is associated with dioxin poisoning. I was diagnosed by several cancer doctors as having lung cancer. Confirmed by x-ray, ct scan with contrast, and a PET scan that confirms cancer. I had the pet scan about two weeks before thoracic surgery at the VA hospital in Seattle. On June 30, 2008 I went to the doctor because my lung capacity appeared diminished, I fell four times in three days when I attempted a little exertion. I saw a nurse practitioner who listened to my right lung, and sent me immediately for an x-ray. I came back with the x-ray, which confirmed a large mass on the upper right lobe. this was confirmed the next day with a CT scan with contrast.

    As soon as I was informed that I had cancer an appointment was made at the University of Washington Hospital in Seattle for a Pet Scan, which confirmed that the cancer appeared to have shrunk and that the upper right lobe of the lung could be easily re sectioned, and some radiation and chemotherapy the cancer could be cured. Went in for cancer surgery to the VA Hospital in Seattle on Friday September 5, 2008, where they operated on my upper lobe on my right lung, they took several biopsy’s and cancer was negative. They then took and re sectioned the area that was affected and scraped the remains that had previously been attached to my chest cavity and upper right lung. They shipped the upper lobe down to the lab and found nothing active or alive, and then shipped the remaining specimen to an outside lab for confirmation. This came back negative.

    What happened to the cancer? Green tea, honey and cinnamon. I took it religiously, at least three times a day. I brought the tea to a boil in a pan on the stove, I used two tea bags and used a 14 oz insulated cup, a tablespoon of honey and a teaspoon of cinnamon. I drank at the beginning about eight or nine cups for the first week, one has to continually stir the cup to keep the cinnamon from accumulating on the bottom. After the first three days I felt immediately better my pulmonary doctor could not believe that I now had 98% lung capacity back according to her machine, when four days earlier (I was in there for some tests to rule out the usual) and had only about a 50% lung capacity. I started deep breathing exercises after I woke up on the third day and felt better, trying to bring in as much oxygen into my lungs and blood stream as possible. I did this for about five minutes four times a day for a couple of weeks.

    I also had many other bad results in my blood work, including a fatty liver, my liver now shows up healthy, no more fatty liver on the last three labs. I had my doubts to begin with, I believed it was dead when they wheeled me into the operating room, but I needed proof.

  • 42. kris  |  January 3rd, 2009 at 6:34 pm

    Editor’s note: this comment contains multiple logical fallacies: see Naturalistic Fallacy and False dilemma

    Poor Frank, it seems like your plan to debunk honey and cinnamon as being valid medicinally backfired!

    I took a nutrition class a couple years ago, and we used to debate the whole, natural foods claims. I suspect you have picked up on most of your contributers here are talking about stevia, green tea, and fresh lemons, etc. When folks lived off the land, they ate whole, unprocessed foods that they raised. Fresh, in season, no added preservatives, additives, insecticides (nor people pooing and peeing where they were harvesting, either, ie. spinich with e. coli). My point is, people ate differently. Diabetes was not a common ailment, nor was high cholesterol, cancers, etc. Now, granted, medicine and diagnosis have come a long way since the founding of our country, but more people died from childbirth than cancer, and that was caused by infection and/or vitamin deficiency. I want to say that what foods you choose to put into your body as a whole can be compared to what kind of fuels and lubricants you treat an engine with. If you let sludge build up in your engine, it will break down. If you allow water to mix with the gas, you lose effeciency. If someone puts sugar in your gas tank, well . . . I bet you see what I am getting at.

    So I don’t think there is anything wrong with trying natural wholesome products to improve quality of life. And I believe that some recipes can improve conditions. As for being a cure for cancer, I’ve also heard the best way to approach cancer is with a positive attitude. I’ve also heard that people who are diagnosed with cancer who belong to a faith-based community where prayer is used as a part of treatment fair better than those who are diagnosed as if it were a death sentence.

    At any rate, I’d rather be putting things like honey and cinnamon into my bloodstream than chemical compounds that no one knows what the long-term side effects will be. Look on the side effect list of most of the cholesterol meds out today. “Possibility of death” or “life-threatening” are two effects I don’t want to chance with my medicine!

  • 43. Frank the SciencePunk  |  January 3rd, 2009 at 8:59 pm

    @42 kris
    Nothing has backfired, I just enjoy getting a daily laugh from the level of stupidity this article attracts.

    you said:

    “At any rate, I’d rather be putting things like honey and cinnamon into my bloodstream than chemical compounds that no one knows what the long-term side effects will be. Look on the side effect list of most of the cholesterol meds out today. “Possibility of death” or “life-threatening” are two effects I don’t want to chance with my medicine!”

    This is a false argument: it’s not a matter of either/or, it’s a case of what evidence there is to suggest honey or cinnamon can cure cancer, which is: none whatsoever.

  • 44. Leroy  |  January 5th, 2009 at 12:48 am

    Green tea is more likely to contain putative anti-cancer agents than either honey or cinnamon, and is the subject of serious oncological investigation.

  • 45. mat  |  January 5th, 2009 at 5:53 pm

    You fool, to blindly reject the ancient remedies is idiotic. What the heck did the world do before your western medicine came into being? By your stupid logic, the entire planet should have been wiped out before the advent of modern medicine. Why dont you focus on chewing your nails and leave the ancient sciences be.

  • 46. mat  |  January 5th, 2009 at 5:55 pm

    Editor’s note: this comment contains a logical fallacy, see: Ignoratio elenchi

    What evidence is there that it does any harm?
    NO MEDICINE…NONE…NONE…NONE…READ…N-O-N-E…. OFFERS 100% CURE. There is your argument. Trust me, it can cure stupidity also. Try it.

  • 47. tb  |  January 11th, 2009 at 2:31 am

    Scientific studies HAVE apparently been conducted…check it out.

    http://www.healthdiaries.com/eatthis/10-health-benefits-of-cinnamon.html

  • 48. Frank the SciencePunk  |  January 11th, 2009 at 1:45 pm

    Thanks for the link tb, but unfortunately there are no references at all, which makes it impossible to judge the validity of these claims.

  • 49. Rick  |  January 12th, 2009 at 10:41 pm

    I think Kris summed it up well. As a chem engr. I believe that processed foods and man-made medicines have greatly deteriorated the health of people (especially Americans) over the last century. Eat a variety of natural foods, without the long list of chemicals in the ingredients, sleep, and get some exercise, and I think you will be amazed at your health.

  • 50. Russell  |  January 13th, 2009 at 4:40 pm

    Actually there are scientific studies done on the health benefits of honey. It’s called apitherapy. see http://www.apitherapy.com

    I’m not sure about the miracle claim, what I am sure of is that dis-ease was treated without Rx thousands of years ago. If you check the hippocratic oath there is a reference to the food we eat being sufficient treatment for dis-ease. So why does it seem such a far cry that things like Honey… cinnamon, morinda citrifoli, and things like that actually contain healing properties?

    Also, I think Americans seem to forget the human brain’s participation in healing dis-ease. Google Morris Goodman, and Cathy Goodman.

    I don’t think it’s such a far cry, I don’t have any proof that honey and cinnamon does any of these things claimed, but I do know that scientists all over the world have confirmed the validity of “The placebo effect” AND I know that refined sugars weaken the immune system, I know that too many hamburgers and french fries contribute to obiesity, so it would stand to reason that eating things that are unprocessed, or come from nature CAN BE beneficial to our bodies.

  • 51. tanishq  |  January 14th, 2009 at 10:40 pm

    Would anyone know if honey and cinnamon helpd improve kidney health. My brother suffers from kidney failure and the transplant also failed and we had to remove the transplanted kidney.

    Please let me know.

  • 52. reef  |  January 15th, 2009 at 5:32 pm

    Api-therapy is the medical use of honey bee products…
    …Most claims of apitherapy have not been studied with the scientific standards of evidence-based medicine and are anecdotal in nature.

    Doesn’t sound like a science to me…

    Also ‘eating things’ is kind of essential in the whole staying alive game, so of course it’s beneficial to our bodies.

  • 53. ringo  |  January 16th, 2009 at 2:23 am

    The thing is that the fda wouldn’t sell this as a cure because most natural cures are a slower process, some find they usually work but some people have better affects then others. Just like the over the counter drugs we buy and perscription drugs are a hole different ball game it is a game of l may cure my problem now, but later may have side effects. Not to mention the peoples pockets l line every time l use them and not just the drug company.
    But because it is a slower healing process you do need to have a long take with family and find others that have used all natural products to see if it is right for you or not, remember that everyone heals differentand some have side effects were others don’t.

  • 54. Frank the SciencePunk  |  January 16th, 2009 at 9:51 am

    53. Ringo
    You need to learn about regression to the mean.

  • 55. jackiaria  |  January 17th, 2009 at 11:19 pm

    QUESTION:
    If the pharmaceutical industry had a drug that would enable us to live forever would these drug companies be too afraid to use it?

    ANSWER:
    YES … They would go bankrupt!

    QUESTION:
    If we had a drug that would give us eternal life would the world government, leaders, and military put a stop to it for fear of global disaster?

    ANSWER:
    Probably !

    QUESTION:
    If everyone born and alive today is never to die would there be a catastrophic calamity disaster on earth?

    ANSWER:
    I doubt it because us human beings have a way of fixing the impossible.
    When things are at their worst human beings are at there best!

    HEALTH TIP: If it isn’t broken don’t fix it!

    DOES IT REALLY HURT OR IS IT SELF-PITY?

    Work through the pain ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

  • 56. Nilesh  |  January 22nd, 2009 at 6:40 pm

    Editor’s note: this comment contains a logical fallacy: see Appeal to Authority

    Wow!
    What a interesting thread !
    As I am sipping my first warm and nice drink of honey+cinnamon (dalchini) with warm water, instead of my Rose wine – I am all to give it a shot!
    Medicinal effects of honey+cinnamon have been documented in Ayurveda – now lets see if it helps me beat the weight and type 2 problems!

  • 57. profromdover  |  January 26th, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    SNAKEOIL….SNAKEOIL….. SPECIAL TODAY TWO FOR A DOLLAR.

    Found on the shelf at your local witch doctor outlet.

    Be careful the government is behind it all..OH wait we are the government!!!! People just like us work their…do you think you can keep a secret?

    Way too much credit given.

  • 58. sara sonora  |  January 26th, 2009 at 10:37 pm

    i have started on the honey cin thing. we wills ee, I am a sceptic but am very open to any earth medicine. Some i have trired are great and some are not. So far, I can only report some mild benefits.

  • 59. Jim Pruette  |  January 27th, 2009 at 10:24 am

    http://www.apitherapy.com/research.php

    Here is a link to a site already mentioned, but takes you to the research portion of the site.

  • 60. Mr. B.  |  January 29th, 2009 at 6:18 am

    Editor’s note: this comment contains multiple logical fallacies: see False Attribution, Appeal to motive, Ignoratio elenchi

    ,

    Very few drugs cure anything, they only treat symptoms. Last year worldwide about 330 billion dollars was spent on drugs for mental problems. There is no known test to show what mental problem you might have. It’s all conjecture from the doctor who is guessing what you might have. I know of no, not for profit drug companies. So if honey and cinnamon helps you, enjoy the benifits. Don’t listen to the people who think they are experts. If we had done that since the beginning of time we wouldn’t have discovered anything.

  • 61. Gene  |  January 31st, 2009 at 11:43 pm

    At least one research site believes (or believed) honey-bee products are potentially effective as a cancer fighter. Didn’t find any follow-up on this, but it is interesting

    Honey-bee products in cancer treatment and prevention
    05 Dec 2004

    Natural honey-bee products such as propolis, royal jelly, caffeic acid, honey and venom may have applications in cancer treatment and prevention, say Croatian researchers in Journal of the Science of Food and Agriculture this month.

    Nada Orsolic and colleagues from the University of Zagreb found that bee products significantly decreased tumour growth and / or spreading (metastasis) in mice when they were applied orally or by injection.

    The researchers tested both the preventative and curative effects of the bee products on tumour models in mice. In the prevention studies, the products were administered before inoculation with the tumour cells. In the curative studies, the products were administered after tumour inoculation.

    “The effects of the tested compounds were demonstrated either by inhibition of tumour growth or metastases (secondary tumour) formation and by increased survival of the animals,” said Dr Orsolic.

    Propolis or caffeic acid significantly reduced subcutaneous tumour growth and prolonged the survival of mice. Honey also inhibited the spread of the tumour when applied before tumour cell inoculation in the lungs. Simultaneous inoculation with royal jelly and tumour cells significantly inhibited tumour spread. When bee venom was injected intratumourally, tumour shrinkage occurred, and the delay of tumour growth was evident. Survival of bee venom-treated mice was prolonged compared to control mice.

    The way in which the bee products work to combat the tumours is not clear, but the authors suggest the chemicals cause apoptosis (cell suicide) or necrosis of the cancerous cells, or that they exert directly toxic or immunomodulatory effects. They may also reduce harmful oxyradicals in cells or body fluids.

    The authors conclude that the intake of honey-bee products could be advantageous in the prevention and treatment of cancer.

    “These results suggest the benefits of potential clinical trials using propolis or honey, combined with chemotherapeutic agents,” said Dr Orsolic.

    A full copy of the paper is available:
    Contact: SCI Press Office on T: +44 (0) 20 7598 1573/1 F: +44 (0) 20 7823 1698 or E: press@soci.org

    NOTES FOR EDITORS

    About Journal of the Science of Food and Agriculture

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    JSFA is an SCI journal, published by John Wiley & Sons, on behalf of the Society of Chemical Industry, and is available in print (ISSN: 0022-5142) and online (ISSN: 1097-0010) via Wiley InterScience http://www.interscience.wiley.comFor further information about the journal go to http://interscience.wiley.com/jsfa.

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  • 62. Anita  |  February 1st, 2009 at 8:23 am

    What could it hurt, for god’s sakes? I just don’t understand people that have to be so negative.

    To the nay-sayers: Let people try this if they want to. There is absolutely nothing harmful about it, and some people are getting good results!

  • 63. Lori  |  February 2nd, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    My motherinlaw is a retired RN practices nursing in a romania where she lived over half of her live. treating people in small villages. To this day take NO prescribe med. for blood pressure cholestoral or arthirits. She eats i small garlic glove on a piece of toast and has i small onion sliced in olive oil and viniger. HER Dr. is amazed that she has managed to lower and maintain both for the 4yrs he’s been treating her. SO natural foods that have NO chemical make up are WAY better for you then ANYTHING you can get from your Dr. Honey and Cinnimon??? You bet.

  • 64. xela  |  February 3rd, 2009 at 5:56 pm

    I have taken honey and cinnamon. This is my second day.Everytime i drink a cup of honey and cinnamon i fall asleep right where i am it takes less than 15 minutes to sleep and having crazy dreams.It is my first time to drink the remedy but sleeping during the day and dreaming and screaming forget it.If you can help please let me know.

  • 65. hoffwatch  |  February 3rd, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    @xela

    erm… have not tried stop drinking honey and cinnamon? Or perhaps just drink less…

  • 66. Lynn  |  February 4th, 2009 at 7:04 am

    I always see these things and are sometimes skeptical, though modern medicine doesn’t always impress me either! But a quick story to validate the point of honey: For the last year and a half I had what I thought was a large batch of warts that came up on the inside of my big toe- yeah I know, yuck. Never had anything like that before- but they started spreading a bit and I just figured thats what they were- about a quarter sized place, just big enough to be ugly and noticeable. Okay for a YEAR and a HALF I tried EVERYTHING. Compound W TRIPLE strength- which only made it look worse- never helped it. I tried the Dr. Scholl FREEZE stuff- didn’t phase it. I tried all the brands of wart freezes and other wart removers. NOTHING. They were a waste of money. I didn’t go to the Doc because I haven’t had insurance for awhile and didn’t want to get anything pricey started. I got tired of dealing with it for so long, it doesn’t hurt, it was just ugly. My mom said she read somewhere that honey was a good antiseptic and maybe I should try putting that on the spot and covering it with a band aid. Why not? Nothing else had worked and I was desperate!! So I went to a TJ Maxx and found a jar of German honey- I hear that German honey is better and stronger- don’t know if thats true or not… but SIX WEEKS later of putting a tiny bit of honey on the ’spot’ and covering it with a band aid every night, just overnight- in just SIX WEEKS the warts or whatever they were, and are almost TOTALLY GONE! Talk about miraculous! And NO chemicals, medicines or anything! In another week or two it should be ALL gone! So I will vouch for honey!! I hear it great for cuts and other skin inflamations- As we all know most medicines are derived from plants and florals in the rainforests- so why wouldn’t other natural substances be helpful?

  • 67. nina  |  February 4th, 2009 at 8:50 pm

    i read this page in august 2008, i tried it then.
    i dnt found much weight loss on the weighing machine,just 2, 3 kgs, but my body shape became better within a week !
    this tea is now in my routine since then. but i dnt know y my old body shape is coming back!
    ooo God i m getting fatty again!!!
    y is that??? i regularly take this tea 2 times a day, no change in my diet n exercise, all da same as b4, but y this???
    please tell me that!

  • 68. Ed  |  February 5th, 2009 at 7:25 pm

    I read item #61. From what I’ve read and studied in the past, this appears to be legitimate and serious research. I did not see your reponse to the item in any of the following items. What is your response? I am a skeptic looking for reliable information (if such a thing exists on the internet).

  • 69. Lyn  |  February 6th, 2009 at 4:42 am

    It is effective if you used real raw honey and not refined honey.

  • 70. ElizaJane  |  February 9th, 2009 at 4:06 pm

    Editor’s note: this comment contains a logical fallacy: see Anecdotal Evidence

    I used this cinnamon and honey last night and this moring I can see it has already started to work .I have colon troubles .I will be back to tell all of you my progress .
    I gave my dad curcumin by jarrow and he had prostrate cancer ..it cured him ! Along with lots of prayers .Infalmation is the cause for some cancers !
    I found another cure from Purple Corn from Peru , I found it in Womans day mag. last Feb I think , anyway I searched and found that TEXAS A&M did a study with this purple corn ..AMAZING ! Purple corn cures colon cancer and almost makes tumors go away in the colon !! There is another study also at another college about the Prurple corn from Peru .I bought some from Global Fusion I bought pills and Chicha Mirada tea drink ! I never have felt this good , since 2003 I have been miserable ! Now I am trying the Honey and Cinnamon and I will be back with my results ! These cures are all over the world EXCEPT America .The Curcumin was banned by the American Pharm co they told the Media they Could Not Publish this news ..I read this on Canada . com web site ,The Canadians already knew this stuff about Prostrate Cancer and so on ..about Curcumin !

  • 71. Simon  |  February 9th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    @Lori. It was interesting to hear about your mother-in-law. My Grandmother also “take[s] NO prescribe med. for blood pressure cholestoral or arthirits” and here doctor, and everyone who knows her is amazed at how healthy, active, and happy she is. Even though she is in her 8os everyone thinks she is in her 60s!

    The difference, though, is that my Grandmother doesn’t eat natura foods. In fact she eats a lot of crap, drinks, but has relied on conventional, western medicine, and she is fit as a fiddle.

    How about this for an idea – some people are just healthy, and using single examples to try and prove a general theory is completely ineffective. Either that or Smirnoff blue label is the secret to a long and happy life.

  • 72. monika  |  February 10th, 2009 at 5:47 am

    Editor’s note: this comment contains a logical fallacy: see Anecdotal Evidence

    I am using the honey & cinnamon, I have just developed swollen finger joints that are so painful. So thought I’d give it a try. Talk about working over night. No pain. So I stopped and the pain came back so I started again and the pain went the next day. So the following week I tried stopping again and yep, the pain came back so,,,,, I am taking it every day. Havent lost weight though. BUT would like to know… Why does the mixture go thick ? If you let it stand it coagulates ! Not a nice feeling drinking thick tea. Any suggestions ?

  • 73. Mojojo Jojo  |  February 10th, 2009 at 6:02 pm

    These people are all morons.

  • 74. Cinnamon  |  February 13th, 2009 at 2:51 pm

    Editor’s note: this comment contains a logical fallacy: see Ignoratio elenchi

    No… these people are not morons. It is a healthy discussion, and I guess Frank is having a swell time! Just check out how he throws in a “boyish” argument whenever he feels the discussion is losing steam…congrats Frank!

    For me, it is:
    Tea = honey + cinnamon
    Jam / butter/ mermade (on bread) = honey + cinnamon

    For the sceptics, pls go ahead and continue pumping artificial chemicals into your bodies…for making them rich, the pharmaceutical companies will present you medals – posthumously!

  • 75. moe  |  February 15th, 2009 at 5:04 am

    The further away from nature we move, the less we know about the remedies it holds. 4,000 years ago in India textile workers did plastic surgery-it only came to the western world in the 1600’s when witnessed by the Brits. 2,000 years ago mustard seed was given to a woman to induce a spontaneous abortion. How did people know this stuff? They studied herbs and botany. How did they poison everyone in the Roman Empire ? Read the introduction to Guns, Germs and Steel by Jared Diamond. Remedies exist all over the world that are not scientifically proven, but have worked for centuries.

  • 76. Mojojo Jojo  |  February 15th, 2009 at 8:32 am

    The story has already been explained as coming from the Weekly World News – a fake news paper produced more for the fun than the news value.

    And still you’re all comparing recipes for kitchen cupboard cancer cures, and bleating about how doctors don’t really know anything and are just trying to keep you ill to jusitfy their existence, and anyone who explains anything rationally is obviously part of the conspiracy.

    You’re too stupid to understand just how stupid you are being.

    Morons, Morons, Morons.

  • 77. Eva  |  February 17th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    Frank,
    I must say, you really are a punk and although science is your forte it doesn’t give you the right to condescend to others and shoot down any hopes that people may have. After reading through this, you just sound like a pompous jerk. First of all, being the scientific individual that you claim to be, you would know that our bodies are capable of healing themselves pretty much psychosomatically. This is why placebos can either have negative or positive side effects. Therefore, if people think it’s helping them, it probably is. Just in a different way. I am not debunking the theories of the beneficial effects of honey and cinnamon. I think there are a lot natural products that are beneficial to us. In fact, many of our prescription medicines derived from natural substances.
    The thing is Frank, you go on and on about the fact that if someone is really sick that they would need a prescription from a doctor. Well, you are correct that the prescription needs to come from the doctor but, that might be the only thing your right about. Antibiotics were previously passed out like candy, now the doctors avoid prescribing whenever possible. Why? Because these prescriptions have caused negative affects on our immune systems and our body’s own ability to fight off whatever might be ailing us. Now many individuals have become resistant to several medications or worse, the meds have created a whole new list of symptoms that now need to be treated by another medication. I’m not saying that no one should never take prescribed medication, in fact I work in the pharmaceutical industry, I would be out of a job if they didn’t. However, try the natural stuff first. If you feel it works then that’s great! Give your body a chance to fight it off on it’s own, even if it’s completely psychosomatic. If all else fails…get the prescription! But the more you let your body’s immune system do what it’s meant to do, the less often you’ll need those meds :)

    Best wishes and to all good health,

    Eva

  • 78. Grey  |  February 17th, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    I just got an email like this today. Thought I would do a little investigating via the web about this honey-cinnamon claim. I read every one of these comments and now my eyes are bleeding and I have a terrible headache from reading this insanity. I myself think the lot of you are correct with the “What would it hurt attitude.” I will do my own research on this claim…I will take the honey and cinnamon challenge for a few different ailments…..Why not try it yourself and that will be the end of the story….You too Frank, put your books down and just give it a try….I am sure you have something wrong with you that this concoction can remedy or not….and then you will have your true facts ;)

  • 79. Kitty  |  February 19th, 2009 at 12:47 am

    I picked up a heavy duty flu bug and am on my second day of this honey and cinnamon mixture. I was curious to see if it really helped. So far I’m a lot better than yesterday ( thought My head was going to melt into a heaping snot barrel) but am not sure if it’s the controversial mixture or all the tea I’ve been putting the cinnamon and honey in. One thing for sure is, it’s cheaper than Zicam

  • 80. Kimberli Hubbell  |  February 19th, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    I have been using honey and cinnamon together now for almost 2 weeks. I have taken Morphine and many other meds for about 5 yrs now with no relief! I suffer from Firbomynalgia, and nuerological pain from a spinal fusin. I could hardly walk and when I did the pain was unbearable, since taking the honey and cinnamon in my oatmeal and tea, or coffee my leg pain has totally disapppeared. I am proof that this does actually work and I have also had cancer so if it can help with that too! AMEN!!!!

  • 81. MojoBajojo  |  February 19th, 2009 at 5:22 pm

    Has anyone told the bees about this cure? The poor little blighters are dying left right and centre.

  • 82. Tim Knight  |  February 20th, 2009 at 7:11 pm

    I’ve been on the honey and cinnamon kick for about a month, every morning toast with honey and cinnamon and a glass of milk, definately have more energy, feel better and must have lost some weight (though i don’t own scales) due to the fact my belt has moved, has tightened up two inches. We all must remember not all medicines cure, if they did we wouldn’t have to keep buying and taking them, the way i see it, if one can take natural products to heal and/or simply feel better than thats the best, i dont like preservatives or chemicals that science wants us to put in or on our bodies….. Remember science has proved due to the size, weight, and circumference of the bumble bee, it in no way is possible to fly….. yet every day millions of bumble bees are able to beat science !!! i’ll keep eating my breakfast, i figure my weightloss will plane off, while feeling more energy will continue

  • 83. Cereal Girl  |  February 22nd, 2009 at 5:19 am

    If Cheerios can lower a person’s cholesterol, then why can’t honey and cinnamon?

  • 84. Jazmine  |  February 23rd, 2009 at 4:31 am

    PERSONALLY I REALLY BELIEVE THAT THESE WORKS TRUST ME MY GRANDMOTHER USES IT AND SHE HAVE LOST A LOT OF WEIGHT BUT I DONT LIKE TO DRINK THINGS LIKE THAT

  • 85. reef  |  February 23rd, 2009 at 6:08 pm

    @Tim Knight
    I’m not even sure why I’m gracing your post with a response, as you’re clearly a tool.
    However, you’ve unfortunately just fallen for another myth on the old Bumblebees break the laws of science when they fly statement.
    I guess I’m posting as it felt the quote in the article, that it achieved this by “the power of its own ignorance”, seemed somewhat apt for this thread.

  • 86. alimodin hassan  |  February 26th, 2009 at 7:23 am

    does a mixture of honey can cure liver diseases?

  • 87. Allan  |  February 27th, 2009 at 3:33 am

    Frank – I like your style!
    I have adpated a portion of one of your comments, thus:

    for my own use. Refreshingly succinct! I can use this any number of times in a given day. Grateful thanks.

  • 88. Sandy  |  February 27th, 2009 at 11:42 am

    Ask some one in India. Honey and Cinnamon cannot cure everything but it will 100% cure what has been mentioned in Ayurveda. Anyway, people in countries with strong Pharma lobby won’t know simple cures for many ailments. BUSINESS IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELL BEING!!

  • 89. Sandy  |  February 27th, 2009 at 12:10 pm

    See this link “http://www.himalayahealthcare.com/herbfinder/h_cinnam.htm”

  • 90. Darnell  |  March 2nd, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    For those of you trying out the combination of honey and cinnamon in varying uses, I wish you all best. Folks when considering information listed on post such as this one, remember there are people under the auspice of certain entities whose sole intent is to negatively slight and/or color information that may threaten the influence of those they secretly represent.

    Don’t believe everything you hear or read but be equally wary of those who incessantly belittle and berate lifting themselves up simultaneously. And just an FYI, when time permits, look up some info on these terms, HEALTH FREEDOM MOVEMENT, CENTRAL AMERICAN FREE TRADE AGREEMENT and CODEX ALIMENTARIUS. Be blessed!

  • 91. Mohammed Hanslot  |  March 2nd, 2009 at 11:39 pm

    Hey guys, am amazed by some of the stories and are glad its working well for you.
    I am a pharmacist, and let me tell you, there is no better medicine then natural medicine, ironic i know, but i beleive the human body is a system of balances, and if there are foods that can increase the risk of diseases, there are foods that can reduce/prevent and even cure.
    I had a HPV wart on my scalp for 9 years, the doctor froze the wart, and it was still there, the doctor said to try and increase vit c and zinc levels to boost my immune system, nothing, this was here for 9 YEARS and HPV is a virus by the way.
    So i thought leave it, its there , its there, anyways a month ago, i was reading the koran because I am a muslim and it says ‘honey is a cure for all illness’s of the body’, it also mentions how honey is the product in paradise, so i decided to start taking honey with a hot drink twice a day, morning and night, and after 3 weeks, the HPV wart has completely gone, absolutly amazing, i doubt there was a significant shift coincidentally in that time frame with my immunity to get rid of the wart all of a sudden, i beleive its due to honey. Now ive read all your stories, I know am not on my own, am going to tell my patients to eat honey with their treatments. EAT HONEY AND HAVE FAITH!

  • 92. Hadar  |  March 3rd, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    Hello everyone,
    the only thing missing is that by Aurovedic laws, raw, unpasturized honey heals cataracts. You dab a small bit in the white of the eye after you lower your eye lid. it stings a bit (PH of honey is ~4) but then the stinging sensation goes away in less then a minute. then shut your eyes and go to sleep. in the morning rinse your eyes with water. Even if you have an advanced cataract the lense of the eye will heal completely in 2-3 weeks if used every night. This remedy has proven itself many times over. it was also used by an AMerican doctor in California. The reason it heals is that the osmotic power of honey attracts liquid into the lense. the honey itself contains many antioxidants. the combination of added moisture and antioxidents reverse the oxidative stress that caused the lense protein to disfigurate and become opaque. Strongly recommended. But again – only raw honey will do this. Find a beekeeper you can trust and buy from him.

  • 93. obaidmazhar  |  March 4th, 2009 at 12:17 pm

    how to get ride of urin problem like urin leak and all

  • 94. Muhammad Barkaat Hussain  |  March 4th, 2009 at 6:05 pm

    I read with interest almost all the comments regarding honey and its medicinal properties. I am Ph.D student and working on ati-typhoid potential of honey. The honey in this study inhibited growth of Salmoella typhi including drug resistant isolates at 7-8% concentration. Therefore it is worthwile to take honey as supplement for treatment of typhoid fever.
    wishing all of you a peace and blessing from AlMIGHTY GOD

  • 95. Will  |  March 5th, 2009 at 1:07 am

    Frank,
    I don’t know if you’re still reading the comments on this or not but you need to look up the definition of a logical fallacy. There are several valid propositional claims which are labeled “logical fallacies”. So unless you’re relying on solely syllogistic logic (which is stupid) stop mislabeling things. 2 cents. And in regards to the honey junk there actually are legitimate studies. Search around a little. And as for the inane comment about proven medication being pharmaceutically regulated – inane.
    -Will

  • 96. linda  |  March 6th, 2009 at 4:52 am

    I just recieved this email too, and thought what the heck, I’m going to try it. the paper didn’t say RAW honey. So I purchased Natural honey and natural Cinnamon. Is Natural the same as RAW? or do you need to find one that says RAW?

  • 97. Muhammad Barkaat Hussain  |  March 6th, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    Here is reply for LINDA,s enquiry
    May these lines find you in good health!
    Raw honey is unprocessed and unheated, so this type of honey retains all its nutritional as well as medicinal properties. Natural honey could be raw if it is not heated or processed.
    good luck

    Barkaat

  • 98. Nick  |  March 7th, 2009 at 7:15 am

    Anything will work if you believe in it. It is mind over matter and your body will cure things if you believe it will no matter what you take. Honey is good for you, Cinnamon is harsh but very good and put those together with a belief and you have a cure!!

    Doctors are good, medicine is good, but belief in your self and thinking you will be cure, you can get cured. Mind over matter baby!!

  • 99. Diane  |  March 7th, 2009 at 11:10 pm

    Have read through everyone’s coments and no one mentions Manuka Honey from New Zealand. It is known to have wonderful anti bacterial properties.

  • 100. Ralph  |  March 9th, 2009 at 12:20 am

    I don’t have time to read through all of these replies as I only found the website today so if someone has said this before then I apologise.

    Honey has been shown scientifically to have anti-bacterial properties, this is why no bacteris grows in it while it’s in the beehive. Therfore I can agree with it being able to assist in the cure and prevention of some maladies like skin infections and sore throats that are caused by bacterial infections. It has lubricant properties so it can assist with sore, scratchy throats by soothing them. When it comes to type 1 diabetes (my daughter is one so I know a bit about this) honey can be used as a sweetener or in foods just as long as the diabetic includes this in their carbohydrate counts for their insulin – just like any other sugar. So while the article is correct in that dibetics can use some honey, they are completely misrepresenting the fact that it still has to be within their carbohydrate regime.

    But curing cancer, hearing loss, longievity, etc I cannot see that at the moment.

    I know nothing about cinnamon so I can’t comment there.

  • 101. If honey is so great...  |  March 9th, 2009 at 2:53 pm

    …why are all our Bee’s dying out?

  • 102. Maverick  |  March 11th, 2009 at 12:42 pm

    To: Frank the “Science”Punk

    It’s OBVIOUS that you know nothing about big pharma, their lobbies, & its gov and FDA ties.
    You should investigate and get the facts before telling others to “think”.

  • 103. bubba  |  March 11th, 2009 at 5:28 pm

    how to cure genital warts with the homes and cinnamon

  • 104. bubba  |  March 11th, 2009 at 5:29 pm

    honey and cinnamon

  • 105. bubba  |  March 11th, 2009 at 5:29 pm

    honey and cinnamon sorry

  • 106. vinnie  |  March 11th, 2009 at 11:02 pm

    For our seemingly indomitable Frank the SciencePunk:

    Please check out the book “Herbs & Natural Supplements
    By Lesley Braun, Marc Cohen”

    It is (and I am quoting): An Evidence-Based Guide that presents evidence-based information on the 120 most popular herbs, nutrients and food supplements used across Australia and New Zealand. Check out “Honey” on Pg 417.

    The authors outline the so-called benefits but quote the source of the information. From my cursory review, it appears quite sound. So sound that i am buying it!!

  • 107. Kit  |  March 14th, 2009 at 11:50 pm

    I think a lot of that sounds way to good to be true but I have to agree it cant hurt to try it and its not like the two taste awful…

    My mom started jerking a year ago and none of her doctors could tell us why. I know jerking is not on the list of things honey and cinnamon cure but she tried it and her jerking went almost completely away. Bad thing is she did this a month before we are finally going to see a specialist. I dont know if it was the honey cinnamon or if its just a mental thing but she did get better. Even with that do i think its a miracle cure for any illness? No.. With my mom we have no idea what caused the jerking so its not possible to say any one thing helped. It started suddenly so I dont see a reason for it not to stop just as suddenly but it is interesting that she started the honey cinnamon at the same time. *shrug* Like I said it cant hurt. If you have tried everything else why not try it too.

  • 108. Old fart  |  March 15th, 2009 at 3:33 am

    Say what you want. I have seen natural substances do wonders for people, including me. However there are plenty of people out there who love to pooh pooh anything that is a natural substance that can help people.
    In one country a man was curing people of cancer with herbs. The pharmacutical companys raised hell and the man was shut down.
    In another country a clinic was curing people of cancer with a natural substance, which is banned here in the usa. The pharmacutical companies had them shut down too.
    Sometimes I wonder if you and others like you are being paid by the pharmacutical companies to help people stay clear of the very things which will help them.
    Another thing to stick in your bonnet is that legal drugs and doctors allegedly kill around 729,000 people every year. Hell if that was the number of people who were killed in 911, we would be stompin’ mad, but it is okay to let big business poison us with their fancy “patented” drugs, than to take some old fashion natural thing like honey, or whatever and get some benefit out of it.
    Well sonny, you and everyone else who puts down natural things that alleviate pain, heal wounds and help people deserve what you get, when you take that next handful of legal drugs with all it’s life threatening side effects. Happy eating.

  • 109. Ranjna  |  March 15th, 2009 at 4:19 pm

    Wow I have practically gone throuhg all the comments and very interestingly have a lot of people on bpth sides.
    But I would like to state one thing here the in India people still use herbal and home remedies and they work wonders. I have never taken any medicine for flatulance I have always used home remedies and they have never failed me in 30 years of my age.
    Infact my paed. friend also tells me to use home remedies for my baby when ever it is possible and honey is one of them.
    I have had a bad cough when I was younger and had it for alost a month the doc we consulted told me dad to get me tested for tuberclosis. Then one of the family friends suggested that I sould have dired gunger powder mixed in honey for a while I had nothing to lose hence I gave it a shot and it worked for me. My cough went off which never happend even after consuming bolttls of cough syrups. And since I have my own experience to fall back on I would not like to believe in any thing negative. Anyways I have seen a lot of benefits of both honey and Cinnamon in isolation though hence I am definitely going to try the mix now.

  • 110. Simon  |  March 16th, 2009 at 10:19 pm

    Ranjna, please bear in mind that a Tuberculosis infection is not always fatal, but the patient can recover on their own and the disease goes dormant. If this has happened to you then you may suffer another bout of TB, and this time it could become fatal. Also bear in mind that if you do have tuberculosis, and it does become active again it will become infectious. The people closest to you will then be at risk of infection. Obviously this is not something you would wish on your loved ones, especially as the disease will be most deadly to elderly or infant members of your family.

    There is a term called “regression to the mean.” Just because your symptoms eased there is no proof that the honey caused that to happen. It may have happened naturally as your body fought off the infection.

    Please, if your doctor recommends a TB test, go for it. If you have it, complete the course of treatment, even if you feel well. If you wish to take honey at the same time, fine, but at least give your doctor a chance.

  • 111. larosie  |  March 17th, 2009 at 11:51 am

    When I worked in nursing home some of the residents had wounds that were being treated with prescription medications. In some instances these wounds were not healing.
    Manuka Honey was applied daily to these wounds and the healing was greatly improved.

    For those of you who make fun of others, I find that you not only have a closed mind, but are very immature to say the least.
    It shows your intolerance to those around you and that is not a good attitude to have.

    Listen and you will learn a lot.

  • 112. For those of you who make fun of others...  |  March 17th, 2009 at 3:47 pm

    …that post opinions, hearsay, and other such guff on a ‘bad science’ debunking themed website, I’d say would be fair game.

    Thanks for joining the debate though, I’m a little curious why you feel the need to defend honey though, no one has said it’s good for nothing; do you consider this as some sort of e-attack on the hive of thinking that is alternative medicine?

  • 113. Michael  |  March 17th, 2009 at 8:56 pm

    If you think for one minute the Cancer Business is going to say anything positive about anything other than drugs to cure cancer, someone is nuts. CANCER is a BUSINESS. and NO CURE will be found. You can take that to the bank. To much money at stake, to many jobs etc etc etc.
    If honey and cinnamon make you feel better, take the god damn stuff and enjoy. If it works for you….good. Try it for a month, nothing ventured and nothing lost.

  • 114. tony 73 going on 74.  |  March 20th, 2009 at 12:24 am

    I’ve just found this debate and have read most of it right through. It contains some blind refusals by “scientific” people to believe that anything other than what they were taught at college must be balony, and a lot of blind faith by “lay” people prepared to use anything which appears to have been beneficial for others. I don’t fall into either of these categories because I’m not a person of any sort of faith and I’m not medically trained. I don’t follow any sort of religion, scientific theory, witch doctoring, whatever. But I am prepared to keep an open mind regarding claims of natural remedies for our creaking bodies. I’m a firm believer in “what works for some people may also work for me” and intend to try this honey/cinnamon mix just to see what happens. If certain ailments disappear or lessen then just maybe the wicked brew has had some effect or maybe the ailment would have gone away by itself, but who gives a shit, if it’s gone that’s gotta be good. If it doesn’t, well, there’s been no harm in trying. Medicos and others who poo poo “non scientific” remedies need to lighten up and recognise the deficiencies in their dogmatic learning.

  • 115. Hali  |  March 20th, 2009 at 1:09 am

    A friend of mine tried honey and cinnamon daily for arthritis pain in her knees. Within days the pain was gone and she was climbing stairs and dancing again. I decided to try it. I didn’t get the same relief for my pain, but I don’t know if my pain is actually arthritis or not.
    At any rate, during this time I got a kidney or bladder infection which has been a chronic problem for me. I don’t get much pain or urgency at all, just fatigue, slight twinges of pelvic pain and blood in my urine. I drank lots of green tea, kept up with the cinnamon and honey and drank cranberry juice also. It worked and my urine no longer had a strong odor and appeared clear. I believe it was a combination of all things I mentioned.
    Here I am again, a few months later with same symptoms, so I am again starting the same regimen.

  • 116. Hali  |  March 20th, 2009 at 1:19 am

    More than a decade ago I had very little immunity to colds and flus. I was sick literally every month with some kind of infection – sinus, ear, throat, chest. My doctor kept giving me antibiotics.
    A customer of the store where I worked had gotten to know me and knew I was always sick. She told me to try echinacea and/or goldenseal. I bought it and took it every day for longer than recommended, probably a few months. My immunity got better and I started taking the echinacea ONLY when I felt a cold coming on. I have not had antibiotics now for years and I no longer get infections in my ears, throat, chest or sinus. (knock on wood!)
    Believe people, medications are not always the best things for our bodies.

  • 117. Muhammad Barkaat Hussain  |  March 20th, 2009 at 9:11 am

    A patient with Pulmonary Tuberculosis took antituberculous drugs on several occasions, did not cure. Eventually he refused to take any medication.
    A friend of mine advised him to take raw honey 2-TSF three times a day for one month. For every body surprise, he was cured by honey alone.
    Honey can be tried especially in those disease where modern medicine has no solution.

  • 118. Kanu priya  |  March 23rd, 2009 at 6:40 pm

    hi,
    i had been suffering with a severe case of acne and whatever remedy i had tried did not work. then one day i received an email that told that a mixture of honey and cinnamon applied on face can cure it. it really worked wonders,n within 5 days all my pimples vanished.

  • 119. Muhammad Barkaat Hussain  |  March 24th, 2009 at 6:24 am

    Dear Kanu Priya

    I read you comment with interest. Could you tell what proportion of honey and cinnamon was being used and secondly how long (time of application) and how many time per day you applied.

    Best regards

    Barkaat

  • 120. Lyn Grimaud  |  March 24th, 2009 at 5:52 pm

    I have tried the cinnamon & honey for the past three weeks and have not lost a pound or even inches. I have diligently boiled 1 cup of water, added 1 tsp cinnamon, let it steep for 1/2 hour, added 2 tsp raw honey. Used 1/2 cup before bedtime and the other half in the morning on an empty stomach. Now if I’m missing something, someone let me know. I did not use Ceylon cinnamon. Could that be the problem?? I desperately wanted this to work.

  • 121. Sandy  |  March 25th, 2009 at 11:52 pm

    Wow. Reading this has been revealing. I am sorry so many people are unteachable and rigid. I received the email about the honey and cinn. several weeks ago, but just last week I tried out the “cold remedy”. I came down with a sudden cold, it went right to my sinuses and chest. After 2 days of misery and so much phlegm that I coughed and gagged on it constantly. After one dose of honey with the cinnamon in it my coughing stopped and the phlegm just quit coming on. I slept all through the night that first night. I continued the dosage for 2 more days as instructed, and the cold improved so speedily I was amazed. My colds usually last for nearly 2 weeks, and develop into a sinus infection or tonsillitis. I hope I never have another cold, but I know I will, and I will have the honey and cinn. on hand for sure!!! Not only that, but am going to now try to help the arthritis in my joints.

  • 122. F;ogger  |  March 26th, 2009 at 2:24 am

    I have attempted for years to keep a tight rein on my intake of processed foods and drugs. I will be the first to admit that there have been some astounding discoveries in the scientific and medical world. I also believe that the scientific and medical world is to easily convinced that life is lived better with chemicals. I question every prescription my doctor writes. The response is always filled with maybe, should or I think while the warning labels are often multiple paragraphs. In 52 years I have not filled more than 5 prescriptions and then only when my doc can give me good odds that it will have beneficial results.

    As far as food I grew up wih some awsome cooks and often am astounded at the rave reviews some of the processed foods receive. All in all my opinion is an open mind is the best scientific tool we will ever have.

  • 123. Alex  |  March 29th, 2009 at 5:53 am

    New Zealand Manuka honey is used in some hospitals here in Australia to treat some infections and some wounds, it is efective.
    When I was a child I had Manuka honey whenever I got a cold and it helped clear the symptoms, especially a sore throat.
    I haven’t used it since (and that was 60 years ago) because I haven’t been sick – maybe the honey immunised me?
    I side with the ‘give it a go’ supporters.

  • 124. Alex  |  March 29th, 2009 at 5:55 am

    Yes, I know there are two f’s in effective – just going too fast. My apologies.

  • 125. kitzy  |  March 29th, 2009 at 7:44 pm

    There is nothing hocus pocus about the health benefits of raw honey and cinnamon. This is simple SCIENCE:

    Raw, unpasteurized, unheated honey is a powerhouse of live enzymes, trace minerals, and antioxidants. Most people who live on processed food and cooked vegetables have no enzymes or trace minerals in their diets. Lack of these causes all sorts of heath problems.

    Dr. Linus Pauling said, “One can trace every ailment and every disease to a mineral deficiency.” Also, raw honey has every nutrient to sustain life without outside sustenance.

    The main benefit of raw honey is that it pumps up your immune system. Your immune system is what staves off CANCER on a daily basis. A compromised immune system can allow cancer cells to grow unchecked.

    Cinnamon balances your blood sugar (essential for diabetics). It’s anti-fungal (and fungus overgrowth is a huge problem that goes mostly undetected today).

    Combined with raw honey, cinnamon gives amazing relief to arthritis sufferers. (Research done at Copenhagen University). And also REDUCES THE PROLIFERATION OF LYMPHOMA AND LEUKEMIA CANCER CELLS. (Research done by the US Dept. of Agriculture.)

    Who says this isn’t science?

    So, Frank, does this make me a moron because I disagree with you? And I can back it up with scientific proof?

    “A mind, once stretched by a new idea, never returns to its original dimensions”~Oliver Wendell Holmes.

    One more note about raw honey. Whether you put the honey and cinnamon in water or tea, if you keep the temperature of the liquid below 118 degrees, you will not kill the live enzymes, and it’s easier to dissolve the honey. Any higher temperatures destroys the enzymes, therefore you won’t get the same health benefits.

    Wishing everyone peace, tolerance for those with different opinions, and a stretching of their minds.

    PS. If Frank slaps a disclaimer on this message, research it for yourself and you’ll find that everything I say is backed up by facts.

  • 126. Ali  |  April 1st, 2009 at 5:31 am

    It cant hurt so I’d try it. Honey in pure form is an antibacterial/antifungal. They use it in hospitals to treat the surgical wound in heart patients……..worked for my Dad! There a FIRST HAND comment! and cinnamon oil and bergamot oil in an oil burner help my sinuses when I have a cold. Cinnamon in the Bible is mentioned as a purifier. It sure as hell wont kill you any way.

  • 127. Alex  |  April 2nd, 2009 at 5:50 am

    I have been trying to find the original research from Copenhagen University…can’t find it. Does anyone have a link? I’ve also emailed the university but no response so far.

  • 128. G  |  April 2nd, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    Heh. I found this today. FYI, I’ve been eating tons of honey and cinnamon for the past few weeks just because I *like* it.

    In the past week, I’ve been sicker than I had been in several years–some cold or flu or something awful. The illness is setting off arthritis and other joint pain throughout my whole body; I am in pain that even my prescription pain meds cannot ease. My throat is killing me and I can barely breathe.

    Yes, *clearly* honey and cinnamon is a miracle cure! Eating it has made me so very healthy and well!

  • 129. Alex  |  April 3rd, 2009 at 3:33 am

    I am beginning to think that there was no ‘Recent Research from Copenhagen University’ or none that I can find. I have had some feedback from various university contacts and they too are unaware of the ‘Research’ – I am still to hear from CU but am becoming more skeptical as time goes by.

  • 130. Alex  |  April 4th, 2009 at 4:19 am

    The Copenhagen University ‘Recent Research’ still eludes me.
    However, I have been able to trace some properly referenced work on honey completed by Professor Peter Molan of Waikato University, New Zealand.
    It is a 47kb PDF located at:
    http://bio.waikato.ac.nz/honey/bioactives.shtml

    It is quite lengthy but the first three pages give the gist of it. NZ Manuka honey definitely has therapeutic qualities and I suspect that more will be found as proper (and properly funded) research continues.

    Professor Molan is not aware of any research on honey combined with cinnamon but he did say ‘When searching published literature I exclude combinations because it cannot be known which effects are due to the honey and which are due to the other components.’

    As far as cinnamon is concerned, I am unsure and unconvinced, like the Johanna Budwig cancer ‘cure’ – long on anecdote and very short on evidence.

    Anyhow, it’s been an interesting diversion and I think I’ll give it a rest now.

  • 131. Alex  |  April 4th, 2009 at 5:27 am

    During my honey research I did discover some interesting observations. This was one of them:-

    The Secret to Living to the Age of 125
    The villagers residing in the Caucasus Mountains fascinated Dr. Nicolai Tsitsin, Russian Chief Biologist and prominent member of the Academy of Sciences. These hardy souls seemed to sail effortlessly past the age of 100. Remarkably, more than 200 individuals were over 125 — still actively working and participating in daily activities.
    After some physical examinations, Dr. Tsitsin discovered that many exhibited signs of “silent heart disease” and scars of “silent heart attacks,” which would have certainly been lethal to a modem man. The doctor believed that being extremely active and working hard well into old age was a contributing factor to their longevity, but he still remained puzzled. He knew there had to be some other factor entering into the equation. He was on a mission to find the common denominator. Then he stumbled on it.

    These people all kept bees! Beekeeping is a profession that in itself historically confers some sort of “magical” life protection on its members, a fact confirmed by today’s scientific research. These beekeepers seemed happy and fulfilled, but were otherwise very poor. Bartering among themselves with an exchange of services and homegrown products was the accepted way of life. They had very little cash, so they regularly traded the pure clear honey from the combs of their hives for other necessities. What they kept for themselves, and ate regularly, was the thick residue that accumulated at the bottom of the hives.
    His findings were included in the April 1946 ‘Bee Journal.’

  • 132. Stacey  |  April 5th, 2009 at 3:03 am

    I’m not decided either way and I have not tried this “remedy” but what I do have a problem with is not knowing where this info came from and that the internet seems to only have the exact same article repeated on many different sites which proves nothing. I don’t discount the effects of honey and cinnamon and hope that it does work. My other gripe however is that there is no mention of what types of honey or cinnamon as well as the origin of these are meant to be beneficial. This particular article falls short. Also call me skeptical or paranoid but if I decided to even try this “remedy” and bought cinnamon and honey of the supermarket shelf, how would I know what I was consuming? A pure product or a far removed natural one full of additives, chemicals and whatnot? I just think its sad that we’ve lost the knowlege and history of the “natural” way. Unless we produce all foods ourselves we have no idea what we are putting into our bodies and its effects

  • 133. Bonnie  |  April 5th, 2009 at 3:46 pm

    The honey you buy in the stores is not the honey you would use. You would have to go to a local beekeeper in your area and purchase the honey. What is sold in stores in processed and not the same as the unprocessed you get directly from the beekeepers themselves.

    An alternative medical doctor who was a customer of ours (we do NOT sell honey) told me three things that helped with good health.

    The first one was HONEY. He said to find someone in your area that sells pure unprocessed honey and take a Tablespoon everyday, as it was great for allergies. The bees are collecting the pollen in your area. It would strengthen your immune system to the pollen in your area.

    The second thing was to have live plants in your house, as they give off oxygen and take in the carbon dioxide we exhale. Plus they are beautiful and living things. There are types that are easy to grow, that take little care.

    The third thing he said we need for a healthy body is pure apple cider vinegar (not the processed type sold in stores) but the unprocessed vinegar sold in health food stores. He said that disease cannot live in an alkaline environment. Although vinegar is an acid it makes the body become alkaline. I’m not sure how, but I’m sure there are places on the internet that would cover that.

    I do not remember how much apple cider vinegar he said to take a day or if he did recommend a certain amount daily. It is great in salad dressing recipes.

    Processed foods you buy in the store have had unhealthy things added to them. So many things they add to them is what is causing cancers and making us ill. Natural, wholesome foods are by far the best for us.

    Honey, plants and apple cider vinegar.

  • 134. Bonnie  |  April 5th, 2009 at 4:02 pm

    Here is a link telling the importance of Apple Cider Vinegar and down the page is about pH balance and ACV.

    http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/acvinegar.html

    An apple a day keeps the doctor away. So does two tablespoons of “Apple Cider Vinegar” and honey, mixed in a glass of water and had first thing in the morning.

    Not honey bought in the store, but unprocessed honey bought right from the beekeepers themselves.

    There is so much we can do daily to improve our health. Let’s do it.

  • 135. Alex  |  April 6th, 2009 at 10:08 am

    Bonnie you are right, there is much we can do.
    There is no doubt that proper nutrition is important. For instance scurvy – once a plague, was remedied by Vitamin C, lime juice for the British sailors. Not only that, but we are now aware of deficiencies in our soils and therefore in our food. The classic case was ‘Derbyshire Neck’ (goitre) cured by iodine supplements. Anyone who has the time and interest should seriously consider a full programme of vitamin and mineral supplements. I reccomend Dr. Michael Colgan’s book ‘Medicine For The Millenium’ as a starting point. Most of the World’s soils are deficient in zinc, magnesium and many other minerals.
    What do the rest of you think?

  • 136. Kat  |  April 8th, 2009 at 12:43 am

    I read to comment 80 and I had to stop because I felt the need to add my .02. I got that stupid email thingy through my bf’s mother who immediately believed it ( as did my bf, regrettably, I’m trying to teach him to question everything and not believe it until you’ve been able to verify it). Found this in the second search I did, and I’m not very surprised by it.

    I remember watching some show on tv that did a brief study on placebo vs real cold medicine, and there was no conclusive evidence that one was better than the other. *shrugs* As far as I know, honey helps when I have a sore throat. It tastes good, and so does cinnamon. The only stuff I’ve seen research done for is honey being used to treat wounds. What I don’t like seeing here is how the scientific community is being reported as suppressing valuable data in regards to honey, as though the scientific community was some cohesive unit determined to keep all of their mystical know-how to themselves. That’s simply not true if you think about it rationally: that many people working together to keep everything under wraps? Yeah right.

    I doubt honey and cinnamon is a miracle cure for anything except that honey is good for open wounds and infections (which has been proven in the medical community, a google search provided me with enough for that) — but don’t doubt the power of the mind to encourage the body to heal. Wasn’t there some research done that linked more stress with more physical problems? Wouldn’t thinking that something would cure you lower some of that stress and thus calm some maladies?

    Bleh. I know there are some foods that are better for some things than others — cranberries helping with pesky uti’s, ginger or peppermint helping to soothe nausea or stomach ache –, but that doesn’t make them curealls. Drinking lots of water will do more for a UTI for me than will consuming excessive amounts of cranberries. I had the flu sometime last year where only throwing up made the nausea stop completely (this was after two hours of looking up remedies to nausea, and trying a good many of them to no avail). *shrugs* Nothing wrong with trying something new, but don’t be disappointed when it doesn’t work or only works halfway.

  • 137. notso guru  |  April 8th, 2009 at 5:45 pm

    I think that sometimes health nuts get a little overzealous, however Frank is just a little to far the other way…
    What drug does he take for anti health and what are the side effects…Pages of illness no doubt

  • 138. Bored Doc  |  April 23rd, 2009 at 1:37 am

    *Honey have medicinal properties.
    - as per lots of research quoted here, some founded, some unfounded
    *Cinnamon may have medicinal properties.
    - as per multiple anecdotal evidence quoted here, non-scientific
    *Most people who lose weight with recipe do not change their exercise level, or diet
    - as per the people who are “trying the recipe here”
    *Most people do not believe that there will be any harm
    - as per multiple quotes here

    So: It may work, it may not work, many people are happy to religiously have honey and cinnamon every day, but most people who try it here don’t attempt to exercise more and eat better (Ooops, people do try to eat better honey and cinnomon).

    Why do people have to “drink something or eat something” to lose weight?

    The bottom line: there are billions of research papers, billions of cures, some better than others. This is but one of them, and a relatively poorly researched one at that. Why waste your time? Try the well researched regime of water, exercise, and paying tax to fund the research on honey (Don’t complain about the last one, you want the research? Pay for it.)

  • 139. silver  |  April 23rd, 2009 at 10:37 pm

    I see by the threads that this conversation has been going on for quite a while….and so has the research on herbal remedies. In fact many of the medications that people prefer to rely on have a their base an herbal component. Science and nature work hand in hand to give us the best of each.

    I have kidney disease which was diagnosed 5 yrs ago. At that time it was found that both kidneys were being compromised and my remaining functioning capacity between the two was 50%. There is no known cause for my kidney disease, just as there is no known cure!

    To try to slow down the progression of the disease I am treated with blood pressure meds, because high blood pressure can worsen the condition. As a result of the kidney disease I was starting to have puffy bags under my eyes and swollen legs and feet, also my cholesterol was creeping up in the unhealthy range. Water pills dried me out too much and damaged my kidneys further, and the cholesterol meds made my skin itch.

    My mother suggested that i start drinking cranberry juice….which we all know is good for bladder infections. So i would get a 12oz water bottle and fill it with half cranberry juice and half water, and i sipped on two of these per day. The swelling went away very quickly and on my next Dr appt they were very surprised, but said that cranberry juice doesn’t do anything for kidney disease. Oh….the Dr recommended that is start eating oatmeal for breakfast to reduce the cholesterol since i couldn’t tolerate the side effect of the meds.

    The oatmeal worked and my cholesterol is in the healthy range, the cranberry juice has eliminated the water retention, and i have lost 20lbs. So I do believe that there are many natural remedies to some of our most common complaints. As i said before, there is no known cure for kidney disease, and my capacity is now down to 25%. However, i show no physical outward signs of the disease thanks to the cranberry juice, no swelling or bloating of any kind.

    So now onto the honey and cinnamon. I am not expecting them to cure the kidney disease, however it does make sense to me that their antimicrobial properties will help to strengthen my immune system. Since my kidneys don’t work very well i am hoping that the honey and cinnamon combo will also help to rid my body of the toxins that tend to build up. I would rather drink a cup of that delicious brew twice a day than have to rely on dialysis!

    So MojoBajojo don’t mock the bees. Scientists admire the bees because despite the fact that their bodies are not aerodynamically shaped, and their wings are very small and fragile they are still able to fly extremely well. Unfortunately they are dying because of man’s careless disregard to the health of the environment, and scientists have been warning of how disastrous it will be for all of us if the bees were to become extinct. Our fruit bearing trees and plants would all have to be artificially pollinated in order to keep bearing fruit, which of course would make their purchase price too expensive for the vast majority of the earth’s population. Lack of the beneficial vitamins we obtain from eating fruit will once again result in the onset of terminal illnesses and plagues.

    Before you mock, and say there’s no way it could work, you should stop and consider the possibility….because that is how our discoveries are made. People with minds that are open to the possibilities and the capacity to think took the time to investigate, research, develop and test natural and artificial compounds until cures are found…we call them scientists!

  • 140. Muhammad Barkaat Hussain  |  April 24th, 2009 at 5:14 pm

    Dear Silver
    May these lines find you in best health and promt improvement of your kidneys. Your positive thinking motivated me write to this lines. I really appreciate your attitude towards disease because i believe that there is cure for every disease and when proper remedy is applied the diseased get cured. Research must continue, particularly on those diseases where modenrn medicine tends to fail. Besides there is no harm to go for natural products.
    I pray for your health and success
    Barkaat

  • 141. bala  |  April 25th, 2009 at 8:27 pm

    modern medicines do not cure, they only reduce the symptoms. DOctors can diagnose diseases and can prescribe a preventative, but cnnot cure any disease

    till date there is no cure for diabetes, cancer, adthma, common cold etc. medical science only prescribes medicines to control these

    for a person who is ailing, that person will try out any thing.

    give it time and the human body can heal itself.

  • 142. agapi2012  |  April 29th, 2009 at 3:54 pm

    Frank, though I think you’re a smart dude, but you really are plugged into the system. I don’t know if honey & cinnamon can “cure all”, but I’d rather try it over something I saw in a T.V. commercial from a pharm. company. Humans have been using natural remedies way longer then the shit they spoon feed us now. And it’s interesting how you dismiss people’s personal experience with honey and or cinnamon….do their experiences not count? Or let me guess, it’s just a placebo effect…unless of course they were using un-natural pharmies….THAT’S not a placebo effect…it’s “science”…..I guess what I’m saying is don’t knock it till you try it….it might work….or is that what you’re afraid of? It’s all natural…it won’t hurt you or give you side effects unlike the “real” medicine…

  • 143. Cari  |  April 29th, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    I have been using natural remedies for many years. they do work. How do think people did it before the FDA came along. CHA CHING out the door with natural remedies because they were cha chingless!
    My dad just told me that he is trying the honey and cinamon for about 8 days now. He went to see his doctor because he was wondering if there was something wrong cause he was loosing weight. Dad is 74-doc says your cholesteral is GREAT, blood pressure normal and your loosing weight because of the honey and cinamon…. It made a believer out of him.
    I personally am taking the lemon, grade B maple syrup and a dash of cayene pepper. It cures ulsers too!

  • 144. Frank the SciencePunk  |  April 29th, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    Natural remedies are not ‘cha chingless’: herbal remedies alone are worth over £41 billion a year. Nutritional supplements, £80 billion. A single homeopathy corporation, Boiron, recorded revenues of £half a billion in 2006.

    Alt med is big pharma.

  • 145. NatSci Girl  |  January 25th, 2010 at 6:05 pm

    Oh Frank, I’ve just scanned this message board and my heart is well and truly sunk.

    I actually can’t look at your message boards very often because it’s the sort of thing I have to psyche myself up for, and then afterwards probably go and do some breathing exercises. How do you cope with it every day?!

  • 146. LIN  |  January 25th, 2010 at 9:00 pm

    I dropped a hot coal between my toes and burnt it quite severely. I tried all the burn salves and anything else the pharmacist recommended but having to wear shoes all day nothing worked. After it had began to ulcerate and get extremely nasty I talked to my father and he told me to put a good red wine or the sugar from the bottom of the honey on it. I didn’t want to waste the good wine (I might have needed it to kill the pain) on my nasty toe so I tried the honey (it had to be the sugared part on the bottom of the bottle). Within a few days it began to get better and healed completly in a week. I’m not a big herbal or natural healing person but I do believe some things work better than medicines.

  • 147. Dana Divens  |  January 28th, 2010 at 3:54 am

    Regarding killing enzymes in honey. Since enzymes are chemicals, they are not alive, so cannot be killed. Since most are protein based, they can be denatured.

  • 148. Captain Honey  |  February 8th, 2010 at 12:37 pm

    I have only been thinking about drinking some honey and cinnamon tea after reading this board and I feel better already. Imagine how good I will feel once a actually drink some. It’s true – Honey and Cinnamon does work.

    P.S I wonder if it will cure my blindness.

  • 149. JellyBelly  |  February 9th, 2010 at 8:11 am

    Hey it tastes nice, isn’t caffeine, so I think its good for an a refreshing drink – plus it isn’t expensive.

    Honey specifically designed for wound care does have an antibacterial quality and it provides a moist wound healing environmnet, facilitates debridement of necrotic or sloughy tissue. It has its place in wound care, but don’t use the eating variety – may be asking for trouble.

    Wouldn’t it be great if there was such an amazing cure for all those ailments.

    We need to think critically and explore the research and evidence available before siting any miracle cures.

    Great website – had fun reading it.

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